FAQs

1. What kind of engine is necessary to run on Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO)?

Any diesel engine can be run on WVO with little or no modifications. Rudolf Diesel actually designed the Diesel engine to run on vegetable oil. He personally used peanut oil.

2. What type of conversion did you have to do to the engine?

Simply put, there are two methods you can choose from. First, without having to make any changes to your engine system you can run any diesel engine on biodiesel, a derivative of WVO which has undergone a simple chemical change. Biodiesel can be made at home or you can purchase it at some fueling stations. Check the list at www.biodiesel.org. For more information on biodiesel check out: www.journeytoforever.org, and www.veggieavenger.com.


The second option is to run your engine on straight (unaltered) veggie oil. There are several ways to do this. One method is to add a second fuel tank for the Straight Vegetable Oil (SVO) and reroute the coolant system to heat the tank. Install a solenoid with a toggle switch to select between your two tanks. Run the fuel line from the SVO tank through your coolant hose and install a filter on this line. This is how our bus Unifried works. The conversion is very easy and fun, even for the mechanically incompetent, such as ourselves. You can purchase the parts for your conversion separately like we chose to do or select from several complete kits that are available on line. Check out www.greasel.com for one option and lots of good info. Another option is the Elsbett conversion which uses a single tank and modifies the injectors.

3. Where do you get your Waste Vegetable Oil?

We have had great success checking grease dumpsters and drums behind restaurants and asking to “take out the trash” when we find a good amount of reasonably clean and fluid grease. We have found that Asian restaurants, especially Chinese, consistently have good grease. Being somewhat picky about your grease helps your filters last longer and makes the filtering chore a lot easier.
If you have a stationary home a good way to get a constant, reliable fuel source might be to set up a contractual agreement with a local restaurant. Have them pour their deep fry oil (not burger lard!!!) through your filter bags/bed sheet/window screen and into your container (ideally a fifty-five gallon drum). You pick up the grease weekly or bi-weekly. The restaurant benefits by saving money which would otherwise be paid to rendering companies, you obtain free pre-filtered fuel, and the oil stays out of landfills, cosmetics, and animal feed.
4. Are you engineers or mechanics?

Definitely not! We have had no mechanical training! The conversion is relatively easy and requires NO MECHANICAL BACKROUND whatsoever. Josh Tickell’s book (From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank) and a few websites or chat rooms are all we needed to get going. Borrowing someone else’s tools was also helpful. The conversion took us a 3 day weekend, a couple of cases of beer (Zimas for Sobi), and a healthy dose of patience and humility for the trial and error. We’ve seen experienced grease monkeys convert a car in 5 hours.
We have already driven our bus, Unifried, over 10,000 miles on SVO and we are clocking in a few hundred more miles every week. We are inspired by this and happy to be spreading the news about this tasty renewable fuel source.
5. How much does it cost to retrofit an engine?

This depends on a number of factors, from your vehicle size to how resourceful you can be in acquiring used and salvaged parts. We were able to collect the parts needed for converting our bus for about $700. Smaller vehicles like cars and trucks can be done for around $450. Complete kits are also available for purchase and will range in price. Installing the conversion is not difficult and can be a do-it-yourself weekend project.

6. Why would I want to go through all this effort and get greasy and dirty instead of buying my fuel at the gas station? (asked by high school senior in AP Environmental Sciences class)

There are many reasons why biofuels make more sense. Some of them are political, some environmental, and some are simple economics. We, the Unifried crew, wanted to participate in the global weaning from petrol-dependency and we didn’t want to wait for the prices of hybrid cars to drop or for some other slow-developing new technology. Our answer turned out to be over a century old and readily available throughout the country.

Imagine that you own a vehicle with a ten gallon diesel tank which gets forty miles to the gallon (about the average fuel efficiency of diesel cars). You earn minimum wage, currently $6.75. If the current cost of diesel fuel is $1.75 per gallon it would take you just under three hours of work to earn enough to fill your tank. If you drive 25 miles a day, every two weeks you would need to refill your tank. That’s three hours of work put towards fueling your car for two weeks at low rates of driving. If you collect 50 gallons of pre-filtered oil every two weeks, after two months you will have 200 hundred gallons of ready to use oil. That’s $350 dollars worth of fuel for your car…for free. If you spend $400 to do the modification to your diesel engine, that money will be made back in just over two months. From then on all the fuel you use is free and the savings are adding up! Besides being fuel efficient and able to run on a free fuel source, diesel engines average 450,000 to 1 million miles of life.

7. What is your mileage?

This is the most beautiful part. Running on vegetable oil does not compromise horse power, top speed, or mileage in anyway. How a Diesel engine performs on diesel fuel is how a Diesel engine will perform on WVO. Our beloved Unifried is just as fuel efficient as she was on diesel fuel, getting anywhere from six to eight miles to the gallon. That’s the same mileage as your neighbor’s HumV, except “Uni” is much prettier inside and out.

8. What are emissions like?

There is not much published research on the emissions of Straight Veggie Oil (SVO). However, once industry became interested in biodiesel in the last decade, funding became available for research on biodiesel emissions. Emissions for SVO should be very similar to those of biodiesel.
Biofuels are carbon dioxide (CO2) neutral. Unlike petroleum fuels, they do not add new carbon to the atmosphere. Biofuels stay within the existing carbon cycle, by using plant mass. The carbon goes from sky, to plant, to car, back to sky. Sulphur dioxide (SO2) and sulfates (major contributors to acid rain) are completely eliminated due to the fact that sulfur does not exist in veggie oil. Carbon monoxide (CO) emissions are reduced by 40-60% and carcinogens by 90%. Hydrocarbon emissions are reduced by 50% which reduces photochemical smog (ozone) by 50% as well. Particulate matter, a major contributor to increased asthma cases, is reduced by 45%.
9. Is there enough veggie oil to power all the diesel vehicles in the US?

According to Joshua Tickell, the author of “From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank”, there are 3 BILLION gallons of waste vegetable oil generated in the US each year, enough to fuel approximately 5% of all diesel vehicles in the country. Instead of paying farmers tax dollars to not grow crops, biofuel production could be increased and that currently unused land could supply up to 24% of the US diesel fuel needs while keeping farmers employed. Another promising source of oil that is currently being researched by various universities and environmental organizations is algae. Algae can be easily grown in shallow ponds on otherwise infertile and unusable land. It is estimated that this source could supply all the diesel fuel needs of this country.
There are many alternative fuel options for the post fossil fuel era. Vegetable oil is one option that is currently very accessible and economical. We do not believe it is the one, single solution to our energy needs. We envision a future where there is a diversity of fueling options and veggie oil and biodiesel should be and will be on that landscape.
10. Can gas cars run on veggie?

No, but you can buy an early to mid 80’s Mercedes, VW, Isuzu, or Toyota diesel for around $1000. These cars are relatively easy to work with, and run forever. You can keep two cars and your insurance won’t increase more than a couple bucks a month. Some insurance co’s will actually lower your rates for a second car. Plus, once you do the conversion for about $500 (less if you’re resourceful), you’ll get all your fuel for free and the car will pay for itself within the year.

 

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